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VonSchiedelEnglishMastiff

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To address the theft allegations my true apologies that i did not double check what I was told by Dawn Powell. She sent me a pic of her female "Lexis": sire to post. I did not double check her information. I should have made sure and gotten permission. However a polite professional email or phone call would have been sufficient to solve the problem, just as easily as the crappy email full of threats that i received. I was happy to remove it and meant no harm. HOwever I have since checked and in fact the photo I posted is on your web site, labeled the same name as Lexi's papers state, is in fact, her Sire. You told me there was no way your stud produced a crap dog like Lexi. Surprise!


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Okay, you wanted to come here and discuss the post on several of the boards. Please be prepared to defend yourself because there are many red flags (as I mentioned before). I have no idea who Dawn Powell is. I do not know her breeding practices. My personal thoughts was that she probably owns a "pet girl" she wanted puppies out of and you were the only one that would breed to her girl, but I don't know for sure...just guessing.

1.) Was her bitch even something that should have been bred or did you just see easy money coming your way? Did she approach others in the Mastiff community and get turned down because her girl wasn't quality enough? Were you sure there was a Brucellosis test on both sire and dam before doing a natural breeding? ANY health testing on either one (microchips don't count).

2.) Re: Life-time health guarantee? What does the buyer get back  if the dog gets sick at 4 years old? What conditions are covered and to what extent?

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Therefore When my dogs are fully matured no sooner then 5 years old their official x-rays will be sent to OFA,
SERIOUSLY!!?? Permanent OFA's can be done at 2 years old and they will show hip dysplasia and elbow dysplasia. Now, what about all of the DNA test that can be done at birth? What about CERF exams of the eyes? What about Cystinuria on your males? NOT testing until 5 years old is ludicrous.

4.) You say you've been breeding for 30 years. Yet, NO health testing in that 30 years? No records of show wins? How far back were your champion lines?

5.) The weights on your males "Cowboy" and "Rebel" at 300 plus pounds? SERIOUSLY, that is ridiculous and pretty much makes me think you are blowing LOTS of smoke.

6.) Dawn Powell + 300 others buying your "stock"...no one ever said there isn't a sucker born every second. True Mastiff people research pedigrees (which you don't even list), look through health testing data and evaluate the dogs based on the AKC standard AND the above information. You may have been breeding for many years, but so have many puppy mills and backyard breeders that HARM our beloved breed. There is absolutely NOTHING any decent, reputable breeder "covets" from you so lets just stop the "Holy Roller" stuff. It doesn't fly with me and actually just pisses me off. It damages the good word of descent Godly people everywhere. 

7.) Now let's discuss the "rare reverse brindles"...they are not rare. I have several friends with them.

8.) Health Guarantee...You'll generously pay 1/2 vet bills if the puppy is bought with a contagious illness (if your budget allows). REALLY? If the puppy is SICK when it's bought, you should refund the buyers money and get them a healthy puppy! NO BREEDER SHOULD SELL A SICK PUPPY!!!! And, if it's found to have a congenital illness, you'll take it back but the buyer may have to wait 18 months for another puppy...sheesh.

9.) Read the puppy contract. http://vonschiedelenglishmastiffs.org/files/Von_Schiedel_s_PURCHASE_AND_SALES_AGREEMENT_Cowboy_Lilly_liter_12162011.pdf HOW can you say they are free of PRA and OFA cleared parents when you've done no health testing? Here's a sample of what the OFA under the parents should look like:

MF-CA2166/25F/P-VPICARDIACSep 2 2010 Sep 15 2010 25NORMAL - PRACTITIONER
MF-PA2088/25F/P-VPIPATELLASep 2 2010 Sep 20 2010 25NORMAL - PRACTITIONER
MF-CMR144/19F-VPICANINE MULTIFOCAL RETINOPATHYMar 4 2010 Sep 21 2010 19CLEAR
MF-7967G25F-VPIHIPSSep 2 2010 Sep 22 2010 25GOOD
MF-EL4564F25-VPIELBOWSep 2 2010 Sep 22 2010 25NORMAL
MF-TH1181/25F-VPITHYROIDSep 2 2010 Sep 22 2010 25NORMAL
MF-PRA1151/25F-VPIPROGRESSIVE RETINAL ATROPHYSep 27 2010 Sep 30 2010 25GENOTYPICALLY NORMAL FOR PROGRESSIVE RETINAL ATROPHY

 

Since you give NO pedigrees and the one's you show as parents aren't in the data base, how is ANYONE to know they are PRA free?

 

So you see Ms Pope, you have MUCH to defend. You see, those of us that ADORE this breed are TRULY RUBBED THE WRONG WAY by people like you. I'll gladly let you defend yourself, but I will NOT stand back and watch people like you try to buffalo the uneducated buyer and harm this beloved breed.


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phisigej I have pups now, my first liter since the end of 2010 with available pups and have notified you on numerous occasions to make your picks. You signed a contract stating first sentence, all deposits are non refundable,(also posted on my site) any unforeseen circumstances, hinder you getting a pup from the liter of your 1st choice your deposit would go to your second parentage choice. It also states That you have the option to pick puppies from any of the future liters, but would not get your deposit back. We don't breed our dogs but every 2 years, despite what the out dated, web pages might show AKC records are the proof. I am working on the web site since it seems to be a huge issue. I'm not unfair, I am honest and I do not take advantage of anyone. I spent the last 15 years taking the puppy sale money and donating it to the operations, of the non profit 501c3 therapeutic equestrian center & equine rescue, for disadvantage children. Kind Honest Compassionate people donate. Your contributions helped feed 8 animal control seized horses, housed at our facility. Thank You! Please feel free to contact me about picking up or having your pup shipped. Last I understood you didn't want it any more you bought a lab? Your Choice to refuse the pup or contact me to receive it.



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OMG, ONE PUPPY CONSTITUTES A FULL LITTER!! And, your stud fee was nuts in the first place. Maybe it was your first customer to deceive you but I feel VERY certain it was not your first time to be the deceiving one. Let's just go through your notes:

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Notes on Contractual Default by Dawn Powell

Section 1.

A. A. AS you can see the strange form of deposit payment, this is the results in Dawn Powell bringing her female “Lexi” to breed to our stud “Rebel” with promises of at least ½ the $3250.00 deposit. She arrived with $120.00 dollars. Against my better Judgment I choose to work with her form of payment, however this was our first experience with deception. Due to this the contractual agreement for stud service was revised. A deposit of $3250 is out-rageous. PERIOD..NO, you shouldn't have "worked" with her. You clearly saw dollar signs and were going to do whatever it took to extort money from her. Now, she's not innocent. She should have RUN from you.

B. B. Very first criteria of this contract was the dog was to c section with breeders vet, so we could ensure all fluids were drained from the puppies lungs completely to avoid pneumonia in the pups. With this breed suctions with a syringe or ball is seldom sufficient. Based on Doc Wilson and my experience in this area, (most vets’ lack of experience with this breed) it is necessary for any bitch bred to our studs to whelp or c section with us. That's crap too. I trust my vet anyday. When someone says I have to use "their" vet, I'm looking for a scam!! AS stated in Section 1 and Initialed by Dawn. Dawn and I spoke daily towards the end of her pregnancy and no signs of Braxton hicks were spoken of as of Thursday the 12th . Repeated attempts to contact Dawn on Friday the 13th with no answer. Dawn choose to take “Lexi” to her vet as soon as she showed signs of contractions. It is my opinion that these were Braxton hicks, so the pups were taken by c section pre mature and fluids were not removed properly in all pups. Did ya ask what the bitch's temperature was? How long had it been since it dropped? Did you even TELL Dawn to start checking her temperature? How do you KNOW they were early? Dawn made no effort to cancel appointment with scheduled vet. She no call no showed a half day scheduled appointment. Clearly, it was YOUR vet so you could have cancelled the appointment just as easily, now couldn't you have?!!

C. c. Dawn made no attempt to make a call to contact me to inform me of said procedure. I found out via face book 24 hours later. Maybe she realized she's been snookered. But, nonetheless, she should have let you know. 

D. D. When a c section is the procedure of birth it is inevitable for infection to set in the mothers uterus, causing mastitis’s (poionous milk for pups)  I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!! Maybe YOUR vet has issues with that, but mine damn sure doesn't or I'd be changing vets!! Sometimes antibiotics the mom is sufficient however it is our choice, as the breeder, not to let the pups nurse other then maybe 1 or 2 feedings of colostrums (pending what the c section shows) and then bottle feed, in hopes of keeping pups from dyeing a painful death of poisoning. Okay, I'm seeing red here and it's NOT from changing the print. I've had 5 litters, all c-sections, all pups ate from mom and NOT ONE DIED! Often not scene until too late and commonly called “fading puppy syndrome.” Okay, maybe you really are this clueless. Normally, "fading puppy syndome" is caused by either Herpes Simplex virus or E-Coli bacteria. You sorely need to do some reading. Well known with Mastiff Breeders. This was expressed repeatedly orally as well as in writing with Dawn. Yet she made no effort to contact breeders vet or breeder, upon signs of contractions or the pre mature birth of the pups.

E. E. AS soon as I found out from face book of the premature delivery. I made the 8 hour round trip to pick up my 3 pups, per her refusal to deliver them. Upon my arrival I was informed she was allowing the pups to be with mom and they were being monitored, yet 1 of the 8 had already been laid on. FINALLY, something I can agree with you on. I lay mom out, put pups with her and stay there until they are finished; I then put them up in a crate (heated). (Another reason we whelp the pups, the mother would not have been with the pups at all, saving that un necessary death.) I Found 7 out of the 8 born, in week conditions, dehydrated, emaciated and showing signs of poisoning (bright red feet and noses, to choose from, having no idea whether they had been laid on. Evidence of fluid was in each of their lungs as they all had gurgles, as they would take a breath, or what color they would even be. (Per contractual agreement no one would have made their picks until after the first 3 weeks of puppy issues were survived here at our address.) Despite antibiotics, Sub q fluids and round the clock care the 2 pups died full of infection before they reached 2 weeks of age. Section 1 Clarifies “PUPS to be Sold as payment” Video and Photo Documentation of dead pups available per your request. Dawn has requested necropsy and dna tests per her expense with her vet. I will be happy to release the pups to my vet for those services paid for by Dawn Powell. Have you ever read the COE of MCOA? If you had, you'd realize that you are as guilty as anyone in this ordeal. You bred your boy to someone who clearly didn't know the first thing about whelping a litter. Actually, from the sound of your instructions, YOU don't know much either.

F. F. I was also informed upon my arrival, that I would be paid 2 pups instead of 3 or 4 since DAwn would be keeping the liter to train and market and she whelped them herself. I had already spent 26 hours of my time on the phone with customers who wanted pups from the breeding, based on my Studs reputation and they were ready to send deposits. I made 5 different attempts to get her information, for said deposits to be made by customers and she refused to accept. Therefore she would not be giving me the 3rd pup for marketing per our contractual agreement. At this point, I’m praying I can keep the 2 she will give me alive. When we left she advised the pups had just finished a feeding. I immediately fed 30 mls to each pup, they were starving. Most 24 hour old pups don’t eat more than 10 mls each feeding.

Section 2.

Upon picking up Lexi , Dawn did not have the $210.00 kenneling fees agreed to. Gees, how many ways do you have to con people out of their money? (Rhetorical question)

Section 3

Liter belongs to stud owner until paid in full speaks for itself and is very specific.

Section4

Clearly states no stud report will be signed until complete compliance of contract is proven and puppy homes are approved by me the breeder I believe you will not find AKC nearly as sympathetic as you might think. I believe they will see you are a smooth operators and that those puppies are full bred Mastiffs.

Section 5

Proof of conception was not ever received from her or her vet as required per contractual agreement, other than a photo of Lexi in the 7th week of her pregnancy You could insist on DNA from both parents, but that would entail you actually doing the DNA on your stud.

Section 6

No call NO Show to the vet of scheduled c section (Dawn had 3 days to cancel) cost him half a day of revenue. BOOHOO. You could have cancelled since it was your vet, you insisted on using him and you already knew the pups were born. He could have scheduled other surgeries, should have been paid by Dawn. $85.00 in antibiotics for 2 sick puppies is due the breeder per this section. This is not including fees for formula, pedialite and sub q fluids that technically should be Dawn’s expense as well.

Section 7

Initialed by Dawn that she understood the terms, Self explanatory, no AKC Stud sign off until said contractual agreement has been met.Final Signature as well as Initials’ indicates Dawn is well aware of what she needs to do to get her liter registered. You both screwed up. She just tried to play you like you played her. No sympathy from me.

Closing…

At this point with all the deception on Dawns part I see the only solution is for her to deliver 2 pups and pay the remainder of her bill, Give AKC and myself written promissory, a document promising the full right registration papers sent directly form AKC to me, for the said 2 pups payment, she delivers as well as other cash payments.

Upon the time the contractual agreement is met, I will be happy to sign the studs report. You've admitted your stud dog was the father. AKC does not get involved in contractual disputes. Their BUSINESS is to register pure bred puppies. I'm afraid you may find out the hard way that Dawn can get her puppies registered.


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I can now document 83 hours of Hassle time caused by DAwn Powell. Not including, the time it will now take, to pursue her in court or attorney/court fees. I'm not sure about all you reputable breeders out there, but from my customers’ feedback, no breeder spends that kind of time trying to do the right thing, or educating their puppy buyers. From a business aspect this is a form of overhead, man hours. I average 150 hours per puppy customer, in correspondence via facebook, emails, phone and video chat, sharing the 8 years of expensive college education as well as 35 years hands on experience, to help the puppies acclimate, training and environment transition with their new owners, for the best possible outcome for both. If you figure 150 hours @ $5.00 an hour totals $5750.00. Id says my prices are Darn Cheap. My dogs are guaranteed free of Genetic Defect for the Lifetime of the dog.  Unlike most "REPUTABLE BREEDERS"  Guarantees', that only lasts until the day before the dogs are old enough to test. (2 years and 1 day by OFA standards) The documented life span of our line, with proper food, vet care and environment has been in excess of 18 yrs old. My pups are potty trained, obedience started, verbal and hand signal and they come to a whistle at 8 weeks. (referrals available) Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but you know what they say, opinions are like ----- , we all have one.  I pray none of you ever get slammed like you have slammed me, especially by people who don’t even know you. God Bless you all!


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Okay, REALLY? What is your degree in? It clearly isn't anything medical because your ideas are wacked (can't think of any politically correct way to put it). Your prices are NOT fair. My girls are from the top pedigrees (FIRST generation), well health tested and championed and I would never INSULT people to ask what you are asking for your pups. If someone quoted me your stud dog price, I'd LAUGH at them. I've used frozen semen on one of the nicest dogs in recent memory and his stud price was FAIR (unlike yours). SO, my conclusion is this. Either you are one hell of a con artist or you suffer from delusions of grandeur.

 

As far as "slamming" you, I would expect to be slammed if I managed my breeding program as you manage yours. I'm in this for the love and BETTERMENT of the breed. Not to con people out of their hard earned money.  Not to breed for the heck of breeding and certainly not to make money. You are an embarrassment. I just wish you'd leave "God's" name out of it because it's very clear to me that you are anything but a Godly person. I have NO patients with people like you!!!!! Now, if I haven't made it clear enough how much disdain I have for your type, I guess you just don't want to "get it". As for Dawn Powell, it sounds to me that you got more than you deserved. My heart goes out to those puppies because they didn't ask to be bred by either of you!


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 WOW I just read some of the responses and Teresa you are the Law on how it is to be done obviously. You are right, this woman wanted a start, wanted to learn, hence the pups to be whelped here. I don't know what medical experience you have, but I'm sure it is not the equivalent of a Retired Registered Vet Tech or DVM. Dawns female is still had maturing and came from a reasonable line. My stock throws dominant, so I saw no problems, breeding her, based on her heritage . Ive never dealt with these gossip boards and this is why. I have proven my case with facts to your court of Mastiff forums. I should not have dealt with this woman  agreed. We are all different and have different opinions. I will choose to agree to disagree with your adult professionalism. If you spent as much time looking for the facts, that you still are drilling me about, you would find them. I also should not fall further into your drama page. I guess Ill stop breeding, since i cant meet this boards approval. I bid you all Good Day! Great Lives! And God Bless!

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The facts are this: You charge ridiculous amounts for you "stud" dog. You have NO health testing. You state that c-sections cause infection in the milk of the bitch which is just crap. Your contracts are ridiculously unfair. You lie about the weight of your males. You are deluded about health testing. Shall I go on? Am I VERY opinionated about what divides a good breeder from the backyard breeder banes to the breed? ABSOLUTELY, I am opinionated about it because I CARE! I only WISH you'd quit breeding, but my experience is that people like you just don't care. You are in it for the money. Oh, and THANK GOD, my experience is more than that of a "registered vet tech". Honey, ANYONE can become a registered vet tech! There are very good techs and ones that are as incompetant as the vet they trained under. Guess which one I think you are! And, if your vet reference is the same one that has issues with a bitch having uterine infections after a c-sections, man I'm GLAD I don't have THAT vet experience behind me! Bottom line is that people like you completely disgust me. In case you didn't pick that up earlier, I felt it was worth repeating. I LOVE this breed and it makes me see RED to see people like you harming it!!!


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To address the theft allegations my true apologies that i did not double check what I was told by Dawn Powell. She sent me a pic of her female "Lexis": sire to post. I did not double check her information. I should have made sure and gotten permission. However a polite professional email or phone call would have been sufficient to solve the problem, just as easily as the crappy email full of threats that i received. I was happy to remove it and meant no harm. HOwever I have since checked and in fact the photo I posted is on your web site, labeled the same name as Lexi's papers state, is in fact, her Sire. You told me there was no way your stud produced a crap dog like Lexi. Surprise!

How ignorant and foolish. Yes, the picture you had on your website of my dog does match the picture and name of the dog on my website...because Quinn is MY dog! You had my dog's picture on your site and claimed it was a dog named Rebel. I looked it up. Lexi's sire is a dog named Dralion DND Rude Rebel. You had the right name on your site but a picture of my dog. I don't know that dog, Lexi or anyone else involved with you.
I emailed you and asked you to remove my dog from your website, as he was not the dog you were claiming he was. It was only after your nasty email back to me that I informed you that you had 24 hours to remove Quinn's picture from your website before I took action. I find it offensive that my dogs or the breeders behind them would be tied to you in any way and find it repulsive that you not only post such ridiculous stories and information on your website but that you steal pictures of other people's pets to make yourself look better. That you then attack others and argue your obviously incorrect points when you're outed is laughable.
Why do people buy your puppies? For the same reason my neighbor paid almost $1000 more for his tv than we did for the exact same model and brand...some people believe that if something costs more it must be better. And there will always be con men (or women ) that will be more than happy to part them from their money.
Keep me, my name and my dogs out of your garbage. They deserve better than for anyone to ever see them on your website.
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Wow. What a load of crap!

'Nuf said!

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The documented life span of our line, with proper food, vet care and environment has been in excess of 18 yrs old.


Hmm. . .Would you mind clarifying if this statement pertains to your lines specifically or if you meant the mastiff lines in general?  Show me that documentation, lady, that a mastiff can live in excess of 18 yrs old and I will pay whatever the hell you want for a puppy.

Just sayin.' 

Becky - thinking of Freddy who didn't make it to 7!
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I have not been on the board much as work /Wonder Woman/ and the two babies (Micah & Nala) have kept me busy, however this really caught my eye.  I am coming from a ‘non breeder’ ’semi-educated Mastiff guy’ point of view.   Nevertheless, I could not resist jumping on this wagon.

Facts are facts, and what I have read on this thread is nothing but some really confused and I am stretching this, greedy people.  Giant breeds are on the rise, pardon the pun.  It has been well documented in the last couple of years that the requests for Giant breed dogs have risen, gone or going are the days of the “purse puppies”.   Individuals hook up dogs and sell them for lots of money, and to quote P.T. Barnum, there is a sucker born every minute.  Unfortunatley, the dog is the one that gets the short stick. 

Buyer’s today unfortunately will not do the research that is required; it just is not in our Ipad world.  Noob buyers will go on the internet, look someone up and go “hmmm their website is pretty, they must be good” they will purchase and when they are burned and then wonder what happened.  Buyers today should become more informed …they will not.  Buyers will look at someone they believe is reputable, and are burned.  It is easy pickens.  Sellers on the other hand and they are becoming more and more of them see these pigeons coming with their Visa’s and PayPal accounts and they plop down money and they are off to the Bahamas. 

I took a moment and looked at the website http://vonschiedelenglishmastiffs.org/  besides being a total mess of nothing more than copyright infringement and numerous ethical violations of cut and paste, I have some questions as I feel they are relevant to this thread:

1.       Did you know that none of your links works toward any Dog Pedigree?  Horses work just fine, but you seem to have a problem with your site in this regards.

2.       The site lists in numerous areas Dog Training yet, there is nothing to back this up on your site, am I looking in the right spot?  ( did you go through CCPDT/APDT)  Why do you not show credentials?

3.       The site’s link to “puppy obedience” is a link to Iams  (http://www.iams.com/iams/pet-health/puppy-obedience.jsp)   it doesn’t work.  Did you get written permission to use this and their logo?  What is your philosophy on behavioral issues and basic obedience; at what age do you begin training?

4.       The site’s link for Lilly is directed to a Paint horse (apaches_papers.jpg)

5.       The site lists a recommended dog food, which Vet? May I recommend checking this site for any questions.   http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_reviews/

6.       The site has a picture of ‘Cowboy’ wearing a Service Vest, why are his certifications not included?  Did Cowboy go through CGC? If so, what is that number, was his Service training though SDA/APDT?   I have a personal interest in this as my dog Micah is going through his training now for both Service and Therapy.  I do not like fakes.  I have worked hard to Cert my dogs and to help kids.  I have kids that look forward to seeing my dogs.  I resent anyone that goes on the internet and buys a vest without the proper training and I will do anything within the bounds of what is legal to stop it.  This not only protects you but the public.  If your dogs do indeed have the Cert numbers then be proud of that and show it.  I don't know who would not show it.

I lost my best friend in May of this year Bentley, and I honestly take serious objection to anyone that in anyway either through misleading statement or lack of knowledge would do harm to this breed.   I have said it many times, the gratitude that I have to specific individuals on this board (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE) and others for helping me become more educated toward Mastiffs and what to watch out for, is a debt that I cannot repay.  

 

Oh… I did click on the “Buy Now” button after I waded threw the minutia of the website,someone (NOT ME)might purchase 10 puppies for $1.00 each, it is a legal and binding contract.  Ya might want to check on that too !  Just a thought.

 

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<p>THANK you Rick. Obviously, every fiber of my being was pissed off and I think it showed. You know how I usually try to be somewhat politically correct and try to constructively educate people, but that one sent me into the world of "off the cliff pissed beyond belief" and that doesn't happen often!</p>
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Why isn't anyone defending this lady?
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sarahs paw says alot about our commander and chief here, someone with that mess has no choice but to condemn others to feel like they arent drowning.

i hope that metaphor isn't too irrational.

Known scam artist? Only this motley crew seems to "know" that.
Reminds me of the Salem witch trials, omit scam artist, insert witch.
Again, i hope the metaphor isn't too irrational.
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This is wrong. The whole site is just evil. Its all about money.

Im glad you found a nice little clique teresa, and plenty of insecure zealots needing a sense of community.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mother_teresa.html
(your doing it wrong)^^^

Plenty of people are willing to defend von scheidel but they seem to get de-friended, cast out, deleted, and slandered.

You might get all of these sad sacks to believe you, just as nasty people do in high school.

"pissed off" anger covers pain. Your clearly in a lot of pain, have clearlybeen done wrong and take that baggage into every encounter. (you need therapy not facebook)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupthink
Bay of Pigs invasion

The United States Bay of Pigs Invasion was one of the primary political case studies that Janis used in explaining the theory of groupthink.[2] The invasion plan was initiated by the Eisenhower administration, but when the Kennedy White House took over, it "uncritically accepted" the CIA's plan.[2]:44 When some people, such as Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. and Senator J. William Fulbright, attempted to present their objections to the plan, the Kennedy team as a whole ignored these objections and kept believing in the morality of their plan.[2]:46 Eventually Schlesinger minimized his own doubts, that is, he performed self-censorship.[2]:74 The Kennedy team stereotyped Castro and the Cubans by failing to question the CIA about its many assumptions, including the ineffectiveness of Castro's air force, the weakness of Castro's army, and the inability of Castro to quell internal uprisings.[2]:46 Janis claimed the fiasco that ensued could have been prevented if the Kennedy administration had followed the methods to preventing groupthink that it followed later during the Cuban Missile Crisis.[2]:76
[edit] Pearl Harbor

The attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941 was a prime example of groupthink. A number of factors such as shared illusions and rationalizations contributed to the lack of precaution taken by Naval officers based in Hawaii. The United States had intercepted Japanese messages and they discovered that Japan was arming itself for an offensive attack. Washington took action by warning officers stationed at Pearl Harbor, but their warning was not taken seriously. They assumed that Japan was taking measures in the event that their embassies and consulates in enemy territories were usurped.

The Navy and Army in Pearl Harbor also shared rationalizations about why an attack was unlikely. Some of them included:[9]:83,85

* "The Japanese would never dare attempt a full-scale surprise assault against Hawaii because they would realize that it would precipitate an all-out war, which the United States would surely win."
* "The Pacific Fleet concentrated at Pearl Harbor was a major deterrent against air or naval attack."
* "Even if the Japanese were foolhardy to send their carriers to attack us [the United States], we could certainly detect and destroy them in plenty of time."
* "No warships anchored in the shallow water of Pearl Harbor could ever be sunk by torpedo bombs launched from enemy aircraft."

In addition, officers succumbed to social pressures and did not want to face social scrutiny by objecting to the common belief that Japan would not attack Pearl Harbor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

Attentional Bias – the tendency of emotionally dominant stimuli in one's environment to preferentially draw and hold attention and to neglect relevant data when making judgments of a correlation or association.

Anchoring – the tendency to rely too heavily, or "anchor," on a past reference or on one trait or piece of information when making decisions (also called "insufficient adjustment").

Availability heuristic – estimating what is more likely by what is more available in memory, which is biased toward vivid, unusual, or emotionally charged examples.

Bandwagon effect – the tendency to do (or believe) things because many other people do (or believe) the same. Related to groupthink and herd behavior.

Base rate neglect or Base rate fallacy – the tendency to base judgments on specifics, ignoring general statistical information.[7]

Belief bias – an effect where someone's evaluation of the logical strength of an argument is biased by the believability of the conclusion.[8]

Bias blind spot – the tendency to see oneself as less biased than other people.[9]

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis

sarahs paw says alot about our commander and chief here, someone with that mess has no choice but to condemn others to feel like they arent drowning.

i hope that metaphor isn't too irrational.

Known scam artist? Only this motley crew seems to "know" that.
Reminds me of the Salem witch trials, omit scam artist, insert witch.
Again, i hope the metaphor isn't too irrational.
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