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Jay, how could begin to know how to reply. That rambling, no periods , no capitalized letters mess was impossible to make sense of. In a clinical setting, we call that flight of thought and it point to psychiatric illness.

Christina if you are trying to defend yourself, I strongly advise going back and try writing like some who isn't either psychotic or on drugs.

As for Dana at Redgate, she is a stand up breeder who is very knowledgable in the breed, breeds responsibly, breeds nice dogs, is an honest breeder and is a conscientious breeder. She has a good reputation in the breed, so you should back right up off of her NOW.

I will allow anyone to vent legitimate grievances, but I will not stand for the bashing of those I KNOW to be strong advocates for our breed.


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Thank you Teresa. I really appreciate someone besides myself seeing through her "smokescreen". It really gives creedence to those of us who know what's really going on here.
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Jay, how could begin to know how to reply. That rambling, no periods , no capitalized letters mess was impossible to make sense of. In a clinical setting, we call that flight of thought and it point to psychiatric illness. Christina if you are trying to defend yourself, I strongly advise going back and try writing like some who isn't either psychotic or on drugs. As for Dana at Redgate, she is a stand up breeder who is very knowledgable in the breed, breeds responsibly, breeds nice dogs, is an honest breeder and is a conscientious breeder. She has a good reputation in the breed, so you should back right up off of her NOW. I will allow anyone to vent legitimate grievances, but I will not stand for the bashing of those I KNOW to be strong advocates for our breed.


In addition, Teresa, note the differences in her first attack on us compared to the second. My first instinct is that she had someone write the first one for her. The second is very typical of her and looks very much like her phone texts. 


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Jay, how could begin to know how to reply. That rambling, no periods , no capitalized letters mess was impossible to make sense of. In a clinical setting, we call that flight of thought and it point to psychiatric illness. Christina if you are trying to defend yourself, I strongly advise going back and try writing like some who isn't either psychotic or on drugs. As for Dana at Redgate, she is a stand up breeder who is very knowledgable in the breed, breeds responsibly, breeds nice dogs, is an honest breeder and is a conscientious breeder. She has a good reputation in the breed, so you should back right up off of her NOW. I will allow anyone to vent legitimate grievances, but I will not stand for the bashing of those I KNOW to be strong advocates for our breed.


In addition, Teresa, note the differences in her first attack on us compared to the second. My first instinct is that she had someone write the first one for her. The second is very typical of her and looks very much like her phone texts. 

I believe (although I COULD be wrong) is that Karen Zabcik (her admitted accomplice) wrote the first post for her.
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This is Karen Zabcik.  Imagine my surprise when I found that Christina Davis and John Busse have associated me with the issue between them.


First, John (although previously you went by Jay), when you tried to involve me before, the Aurora Police Department contacted you and told you to cease and desist as I am not in any capacity involved. 

 

Your case with Christina Davis is exactly that, YOUR case with CHRISTINA DAVIS. 

 

Please don’t involve nor make up lies about me or anyone else who has purchased a dog from her…we can tell our own stories.  We are quite capable of that.


The really sad thing is, anyone can claim anything on the internet, even if it's false.  And people believe it.  That doesn’t make the actions of the person falsifying information legal…

 

What’s the GOLDEN RULE?  Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  John - what have I ever done to you???  You called and asked about my experience with Christina, and when I told you it was good and you didn’t like it.   I told you the truth, and for being honest, this is what I get!

 

It would really be great if you got your facts straight: 
1) I am not a realtor, as you claim.
2)  I do not work in Lakewood, as you claim. 
3)  I am not an accomplice, (and have never bred, nor sold, nor tried to sell any dog, cat or otherwise) as you claim.  And you said “her admitted accomplice”…I can’t find anywhere that anyone says I’m an accomplice except for you. 
4)  I have never, ever written any messages for Christina Davis, as you claim. 

Please, I BEG YOU, get your facts straight.  Your claims concerning me are absolute untruths, and defamation of my character.  I don't take this lightly.  John - I demand that you remove my name from all things involving you, immediately.  The same goes for you Christina.  I demand that you cease and desist.  My attorney advised that I give you 48 hours to remove my name before I file a suit.  What you're doing to me is wrong and illegal.

John:  If you'd like to know me, please, set up a meeting.


 If you want info on my association with Christina, here it is:  Yes, I purchased a GORGEOUS female Dark Apricot English Mastiff from Christina Davis in January, 2013.  I paid cash, and I got my precious baby girl.  She was so sweet -- 22 lbs of pure love!   I was so excited to have such a beautiful baby.  I wanted an amazing PET, which is exactly what I have.  She's now a wonderful 200 lb. female who will NEVER be bred, as frankly, I don't agree with anyone breeding who isn't qualified, and I'm not. 

 

Yes, I took a road trip…who wouldn’t jump at a chance to get away for a few days?  The trip was so Christina could pick up a puppy (that I understood you told her you wanted) as a gift for your wife.  That doesn’t make me an accomplice, it makes me one who needed to relax for a few days.    

 

Breeders have a tough job and it's not my cup of tea.  I'm not interested in breeding...there are WAY too many dogs due to over breeding primarily from back yard breeders who don't know what they're doing, and the number euthanized each year is horrifying.  I tried to go through several rescues to get a mastiff, to no avail.  I'm not a breeder, nor pet seller, nor anything.  I love my dogs with all my heart...they aren't just pets, they are family.  Yes, I met both the mother and the father of my mastiff, and fell in love with my mastiff before I ever laid eyes on her.  That is where my association with mastiffs begins and ends.  I've never owned one before, and with the hatefulness of the mastiff community on this board, I'll probably never have another. 

I'm sorry you (John and others) and Christina have ended up in your mess, but it’s YOUR mess.  I understand how frustrating and infuriating it can be. Please, instead of using public opinion as your mediator, use the judicial system.  No one enjoys reading this nastiness!!

 

John, please, don't make up any more stories about me.  Ask me.  I'll tell you the truth.  I've never lied to nor about you.  You can't say the same, as you did it in writing on the internet.  Shame on you!

I don't know what you mean by accomplice?  Did I rob a bank or something?  LOL!!   Yes, I took a road trip and was at the courthouse, as I was asked to be there to testify that I purchased a dog from her. Since you ended up not seeing a judge, I didn’t have to testify, and therefore you made an assumption that is false.   I am an extremely happy and proud English Mastiff owner, not an accomplice.  

 

John & Christina, please, take it to the Judicial system and not to the rest of us who aren’t privy to anything other than the nastiness of your words.  John, when you falsify about me, it makes us wonder about the rest of your story….


I don't know what else to say, other than I'm terribly disappointed at both of you.  There is so much negativity in the world, and you don’t have to air your dirty laundry publicly over and over again.

 

 I hope you both find peace and happiness in your life.  I wish you both the best. 

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This is Karen Zabcik.  Imagine my surprise when I found that Christina Davis and John Busse have associated me with the issue between them.


First, John (although previously you went by Jay), when you tried to involve me before, the Aurora Police Department contacted you and told you to cease and desist as I am not in any capacity involved. 

 

Your case with Christina Davis is exactly that, YOUR case with CHRISTINA DAVIS. 

 

Please don’t involve nor make up lies about me or anyone else who has purchased a dog from her…we can tell our own stories.  We are quite capable of that.


The really sad thing is, anyone can claim anything on the internet, even if it's false.  And people believe it.  That doesn’t make the actions of the person falsifying information legal…

 

What’s the GOLDEN RULE?  Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.  John - what have I ever done to you???  You called and asked about my experience with Christina, and when I told you it was good and you didn’t like it.   I told you the truth, and for being honest, this is what I get!

 

It would really be great if you got your facts straight: 
1) I am not a realtor, as you claim.
2)  I do not work in Lakewood, as you claim. 
3)  I am not an accomplice, (and have never bred, nor sold, nor tried to sell any dog, cat or otherwise) as you claim.  And you said “her admitted accomplice”…I can’t find anywhere that anyone says I’m an accomplice except for you. 
4)  I have never, ever written any messages for Christina Davis, as you claim. 

Please, I BEG YOU, get your facts straight.  Your claims concerning me are absolute untruths, and defamation of my character.  I don't take this lightly.  John - I demand that you remove my name from all things involving you, immediately.  The same goes for you Christina.  I demand that you cease and desist.  My attorney advised that I give you 48 hours to remove my name before I file a suit.  What you're doing to me is wrong and illegal.

John:  If you'd like to know me, please, set up a meeting.


 If you want info on my association with Christina, here it is:  Yes, I purchased a GORGEOUS female Dark Apricot English Mastiff from Christina Davis in January, 2013.  I paid cash, and I got my precious baby girl.  She was so sweet -- 22 lbs of pure love!   I was so excited to have such a beautiful baby.  I wanted an amazing PET, which is exactly what I have.  She's now a wonderful 200 lb. female who will NEVER be bred, as frankly, I don't agree with anyone breeding who isn't qualified, and I'm not. 

 

Yes, I took a road trip…who wouldn’t jump at a chance to get away for a few days?  The trip was so Christina could pick up a puppy (that I understood you told her you wanted) as a gift for your wife.  That doesn’t make me an accomplice, it makes me one who needed to relax for a few days.    

 

Breeders have a tough job and it's not my cup of tea.  I'm not interested in breeding...there are WAY too many dogs due to over breeding primarily from back yard breeders who don't know what they're doing, and the number euthanized each year is horrifying.  I tried to go through several rescues to get a mastiff, to no avail.  I'm not a breeder, nor pet seller, nor anything.  I love my dogs with all my heart...they aren't just pets, they are family.  Yes, I met both the mother and the father of my mastiff, and fell in love with my mastiff before I ever laid eyes on her.  That is where my association with mastiffs begins and ends.  I've never owned one before, and with the hatefulness of the mastiff community on this board, I'll probably never have another. 

I'm sorry you (John and others) and Christina have ended up in your mess, but it’s YOUR mess.  I understand how frustrating and infuriating it can be. Please, instead of using public opinion as your mediator, use the judicial system.  No one enjoys reading this nastiness!!

 

John, please, don't make up any more stories about me.  Ask me.  I'll tell you the truth.  I've never lied to nor about you.  You can't say the same, as you did it in writing on the internet.  Shame on you!

I don't know what you mean by accomplice?  Did I rob a bank or something?  LOL!!   Yes, I took a road trip and was at the courthouse, as I was asked to be there to testify that I purchased a dog from her. Since you ended up not seeing a judge, I didn’t have to testify, and therefore you made an assumption that is false.   I am an extremely happy and proud English Mastiff owner, not an accomplice.  

 

John & Christina, please, take it to the Judicial system and not to the rest of us who aren’t privy to anything other than the nastiness of your words.  John, when you falsify about me, it makes us wonder about the rest of your story….


I don't know what else to say, other than I'm terribly disappointed at both of you.  There is so much negativity in the world, and you don’t have to air your dirty laundry publicly over and over again.

 

 I hope you both find peace and happiness in your life.  I wish you both the best. 



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I still stand by this is not the place.  Take it to the judicial system.

I'm not going to lie and say I am a realtor who works in Lakewood, because I'm not a realtor, nor do I work in Lakewood.

I didn't sign up for that active rain thing.  I'm guessing it was a spam of sort???  But it's wrong, I am not a realtor.  I just contacted them to have it removed.

Yes, I am a real estate investor, which is quite a difference from a realtor.  'Nuff said???

I still don't know what you want with me?  Further, Please, ask me if you have questions.

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I still stand by this is not the place.  Take it to the judicial system.

I'm not going to lie and say I am a realtor who works in Lakewood, because I'm not a realtor, nor do I work in Lakewood.

I didn't sign up for that active rain thing.  I'm guessing it was a spam of sort???  But it's wrong, I am not a realtor.  I just contacted them to have it removed.

Yes, I am a real estate investor, which is quite a difference from a realtor.  'Nuff said???

I still don't know what you want with me?  Further, Please, ask me if you have questions.



I ALREADY have taken it to the judicial system which YOU elected to be a part of. So unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it too! You are part of this whether you like it or not. In LEGAL CIRCLES this is called "opening a can of worms"! You reap what you sow.

You are certainly welcome to threaten and bring action against me if you wish. The same goes for that goes for your friend...any court...anytime!!!

You and Davis or whatever her name is unleased the monster by virtue of each of your actions. NOW you are left to deal with the consequences. And be very aware that I AM NOT AFRAID OF EITHER OF YOU!

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He has taken this to the Judicial system, it is clear in his post, and you have elected to be a part of this case.  I have your number as well, as being a reference for Christina Davis, at "Grace King's Mastiffs"
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  As one of the Administrators for Mastiff Chat, I have removed relevant personal documents that should not be placed on this forum. It is not a good idea  to post bank documents that include routeing numbers or anyone's criminal history in a public forum.

   This is not a forum for personal redemption or personal justification.  This is a forum for Mastiff's, not a court of law.   Any placement of documents such as those placed can put the owner of this forum at risk and possible legal action.

  If you have a legal issue please seek the appropriate legal counsel and action through the legal system in Denver.

   Further posting of personal documentation such as bank checks or any criminal history will cause this topic to be lock and or deleted.  I will protect this forum and all of the good work it has accomplished.  May I recommend those of you that are considering purchasing a puppy to read the " tips on finding your mastiff puppy " posted on this forum, they have worked for me and countless others for years.

  Healthy debate is encouraged, everyone has an opinion and everyone has the right to be heard, however, some items will not be on this forum.

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Jbrd53, can u contact me? Christina Davis got me too. She's in Oklahoma now & got me to bring her 3 of my pups from Arkansas. I had no idea what I was getting into. Of course, she stole them. She texts things like "why are u mean to me?" And "back off, you'll get you're money" but yes, always the pitiful excuses. She must hv 10 grandmas that hv all died twice. I'll do anything to see her prosecuted. That was a year ago, but the more I read about her, the more I think she needs a psych exam.
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Christina is on FB "English Mastiff Owners" group. Nov 7, 3014. God told her to gv a woman w cancer a puppy. When I told them Christina was a fraud, they were mad at ME! U can find her there. She's Mastiffs de Eckenfelden now. And back in CO!

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Jbrd53, can u contact me? Christina Davis got me too. She's in Oklahoma now & got me to bring her 3 of my pups from Arkansas. I had no idea what I was getting into. Of course, she stole them. She texts things like "why are u mean to me?" And "back off, you'll get you're money" but yes, always the pitiful excuses. She must hv 10 grandmas that hv all died twice. I'll do anything to see her prosecuted. That was a year ago, but the more I read about her, the more I think she needs a psych exam.
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Just FYI, Christina Davis is at it again, this time as Black Diamond Mastiffs!

History:

I haven't posted in a while. You all know what a ton of people have been through with this woman. As all of the drama unfolded, she has less than 24 hours before she was to appear before Arapahoe County Small Claims Court in Littleton, Colorado to answer Contempt Of Court charges. Aurora Police, specifically Detective Michael Gerbino of the Economic Crimes Unit facilitated a meeting between her and myself to return the money she STOLE from me. We had a sergeant from the police department as a civil standby. We made her drive her sorry a$$ 4 1/2 hours to make this happen, to which she was over 2 hours late!

Even in those circumstances, Davis STILL tried to get over by handing me an envelope that was short by $50 saying that's all she had. When I handed it back saying I'd see her the next day in court, she immediately went to the red van (that had been seen numerous times at her Ordway residence) and being driven by yet ANOTHER elderly woman who is as yet been identified, and retrieved the remainder of the money. She was less than 12 hours short of CERTAINLY being arrested!

During this time, she CONSTANTLY issued threats of court action (which I've yet to see) and called names and was as classless and rude as could be to the point the sergeant had to ORDER her to silence herself and tend to the task at hand.

This is how this ended up. Now I'm told she is now advertising as BLACK DIAMOND MASTIFFS and I personally can tell you that she advertises from San Francisco to Rhode Island on Craigslist with these ads for AKC mastiffs. Unfortunately, I can't help everyone. This whole ordeal has taken a personal toll on my and my wife's personal lives. Thank God it's over for us. However, she managed to yet squeeze out of this one just by the short hairs!

BUT, the remainder of the people she continues to scam and potential victims yet to surface must be diligent in their pursuit of her if they hope to get any satisfaction. I will continue to make known ANY facts that come of light to me so any potential 'marks' might be informed - hopefully BEFORE they become victimized by this rude, thieving, obnoxious, sociopathic individual known as CHRISTINA DAVIS!!!

In closing,. I STILL have all the documents on her that I've collected, so if ANYONE wants copies, please post here and I'll be happy to furnish them. My email has changed for obvious reasons so I'll check in from time to time:-)

May you all have a blessed Christmas and a very prosperous and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
JB.

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Thank you for the heads up! What a piece of work she is!!!
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Thank you for the heads up! What a piece of work she is!!!


You're welcome, Teresa.
I will check in from time to time and help however I'm able to. I simply cannot believe that the Crowley County Sheriff's Dept. can't get into this knowing full well what's transpired out there...
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