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AURORA, CO. ENGLISH MASTIFF SCAM ALERT!!!!!
ANYONE WHO BOUGHT AN ENGLISH MASTIFF (questionable if the dog is even purebred) FROM "KINGS GRACE MASTIFFS" SHOULD CONTACT ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

REPUTABLE BREEDERS HAVE INFORMED ME THAT THIS WOMAN'S DOGS HAVE NOT LITTERED...EVER. HER FEMALE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO CARRY PAST HALF TERM!

THE CONSENSUS IS SHE BUYS PUPS FROM OUT OF STATE PUPPY MILLS AND SELLS THEM AS HER OWN, INCREASES THE PRICE, WON'T ALLOW VISITORS TO MEET PARENTS, MAKES EVERY EXCUSE IN THE BOOK AS TO WHY. MINE WAS THAT HER BROTHER WAS IN A WRECK. WANTED TO "DELIVER" THE PUP AND "SEND" PAPERS LATER. RIIIIIIIIIIGHT?

CONTACT ME FOR MORE DETAILS!!!!!!!
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
Posting ID: 3843370632 Posted: 2013-06-01, 3:17PM MDT email to a friend

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I fell victim to this women !  I purchased what WAS SAID TO BE A SHOW DOG, for 2350.00 dollars.  Now I am spending additional money on a lawyer to get her to stop harassing me, and provide akc paper work that she does not have. She never paid the breeder for puppy. She has threaten me by stating she will come to my house, and take my dog, if I continue to request akc paper work, I am pursuing legal action against her. I am over 50, and disabled.  This is just unbelievable !
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I'm so sorry you were taken.

My suggestions are these. First, call the attorney general where you bought the puppy (her state). Second, inform the BBB in her area (it won't help you much, but it might warn others). Third, don't hesitate to SAY HER NAME! It is okay to repeat someone's kennel name and their name as long as you are being factual. PLEASE don't let this breeder get away with anything. Push the attorney general of the state often and hard. File theft charges with the local sheriff or police. Inform AKC of her name and kennel name. Any particulars you have the breeding (parents, birthday, OFA numbers etc), turn it over to AKC.

I get SO tired of hearing these travesties. I do not understand how someone could prey on someone looking forward to their puppy. There's no lower form of life than someone who rips people off by tugging at their heart.

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First of all --the original add that was posted is from a man named John Jay Busse , He was someone who wanted to buy a puppy from a litter I had planned back In early 2013.
At 54 days my dog started to pass bloody black sludge, Being that I love her more than my own air , I rushed her to the vet ,to find out she had miscarried..( Which I can post shortly so you can see ) Several people were excited about getting a puppy And I being kindhearted felt bad.. Everyone was given the same option, Mr. Busse decided he would like my help finding another puppy, as well as another couple!!
Myself and my friend Karen drove 584 miles one way to pick up two puppies to be delivered to this man and another couple, both couples chose brindle males..
Mr. Busse and his wife, on our trip back from the reputable breeder , Mr . Busse and His wife informed me they have now changed their mind again they wanted a fawn male and wanted to be there to meet the parents (mind you the sale was already done ) time was wasted, the trip was already made.. This person is a reputable breeder, not a puppy mill ,not a rescue..
When I return to Denver I had called the couple to come pick up the puppy- Mr. Busse decided to show up at my house raising Cane he then informed me he did not believe my dog had a miscarriage ,that I didn't want him to have my champion lines and was trying to pass off this dog for my champion lines.. None of which was true and at this point I became upset!!
Mr. Busse was outside my house screaming to other puppy buyers ,stating he wasn't sure if I was a legit breeder..
When the love of your life has a miscarriage, it's hard enough to not be scared to death for her safety much less dealing with people who have mental issues..
At a later date Mr. Busse decided to come over to my house and feed my dog man-made poison in capsules, my dog collapsed and we had to rush her to the vet.
Thank God her life was spared .( can post those vet records as well ) I of course called the police and Mr. Busse was warned to stay completely away from me And my friends which he refuses to do.
So now I am seeking legal action!!
Sandi purchased a dog from me last Saturday that I purchased from someone else, I had some things come up and realized I cannot afford this dog right now..
I then asked the breeder what she would like me to do she told me I could sell the dog.. Sandi paid way less than the dog was worth..
Sandi insisted on her and her husband coming Saturday, I was released from the hospital with pneumonia Friday and told Sandi it would be best if she waited till Wednesday or Friday the following week she insisted on picking up the dog!!
I told her it would take 3 to 5 business days to get the AKC paperwork to me then transferred to her, she was 100% okay with this -Until she went home got on the Internet and seen Mr. Busse's add and decided to believe it ,act like a fool and raise all kinds of hell!!
I will be sending Sandi her papers and will post the certified return request receipt along with the other paperwork to this ad..
And in the meantime will be contacting a lawyer about her slander as well..
I have quality English Mastiffs wich whom I take very good care of and love with all my soul!!
My goal and habits in life are helping people. I have a referral and act of kindness list that goes for days!!
And I have no problem posting some of those too . People remember this world is filled with evil and people will go out of their way to hurt you for no reason at all ,so I say to you don't believe everything you read or hear and only half of what you see !!
Hope this clears up any questions if not feel free to email me I have nothing to hide nor would I ever go out of my way to hurt someone.. Thank you
Christina Davis
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Thank you for your rebuttal.

There are a few things that might help all this be avoided in the future. I hope it helps.

First, always get a contract ahead of time. Out line exactly what litter the puppy is to come from. If there is no litter for any reason, the contract is void. SEND them to another breeder; don't get in the middle at that point. Be clear about as much as is humanly possible in regards to paperwork, costs, guarantees etc.

Second, never take non-refundable deposits . I've seen that lead very hard feelings and I don't believe deposits should be held in 99.9% of cases. I do take deposits after the pups are 4 weeks of age, but if someone backs out between 4-8 weeks, I don't want to keep their money.

Third, (and this is a biggie), don't involve third parties in your business dealings(i.e., other breeders). In the MCOA code of ethics, buying a puppy from one breeder and selling it to another puppy buyer is called brokering and is a huge no no. There are so many pitfalls in that scenario that I wouldn't know where to begin.

Fourth, never breed if you cannot take care of yourself first. Never breed when you can't afford a disaster. Though I approach every breeding expecting the absolute best outcome, I prepare for the worst just in case (financially).

I've had people upset with me because I didn't have enough puppies versus people wanting them, but the reality is that I have no control over that. I will gladly put THEM in touch with other breeders, but it would never get involved in their dealings. That's just a disaster in the making.

Be honest in all things. No excuses, no blaming others, no keeping someone's money. In ANY business dealings and, especially in matter of the heart such as a puppy, be absolutely above reproach. It's important to remember that it can take years to build a great reputation and one smelly transaction to ruin it.

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Yes I did finally receive AKC paper work, and a very disturbing letter from Christina Davis, which I would love to post here, and have turned over to the Arvada Police Dept.  I paid 2,350.00 dollars for this puppy which was represented as a show dog from a well known breeder, which turned out not to be true. The purchase price was 2,000, which included 500.00 for breeding rights, until the day I showed up for pick up, then was increased to 2, 500.00, after declining, Christina Davis lowered her price to 2,350.00.   Christina paid 1,500.00 dollars. Only paying the breeder 200.00 dollars, and later after I sought legal counsel, Christina paid the remaining balance, therefore releasing the akc paper work that the breeder had in her possession.  Christina would not give me the real breeders name, but with a lot of leg work, and with the help of my vet, I was able to obtain the breeders name, phone number, and location.

Her reason for selling the dog, as she stated to me, was because her six adult mastiffs acted aggressively towards the puppy, one of the six scratching the puppy on the face, which she assured me was treated by a vet, and that the "scratch" would not scar. However my vet believes it was a facial bite, not a scratch, and will scar.  There is a large scar down the face of the puppy with two puncture holes. 

My original agreement with Christina Davis, "Akc Champion Line English Mastiffs" by "Kings Grace Mastiff", was for a puppy from her litter due July 4, and ready for release the first week of Sept. 2014, which she required a 500.00 dollar deposit, which I paid by check on May 31, 2014, and she cashed in Pueblo, Colorado on June 2, 2014.  Then she later informed me of this "Show Dog" above, which she would sell for 1,500.00, and raised the price on, see above.





 Christina I have everything to support my claims, and certainly have no problems posting it all here.  As far as your lawsuit, bring it on !
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I am the John (Jay) Busse that Christina Davis refers to in the previous post. I will let you all in on what exactly transpired with this woman.

In February of 2013, I was wanting to get my wife a Mothers Day gift as we were buying a home in Aurora, CO. I saw an ad on eBay CLASSIFIEDS for mastiff puppies for $1100. I called and the phone answered Kings Grace Mastiffs and Rocky Mountain Mastiff Rescue...a recorded greeting. She called back a short time later saying she had no puppies. I continued my search.

A few hours later, she called back saying MIRACULOUSLY her female had become pregnant and she'd have puppies by Mothers Day (imagine that). I met with her and gave her deposits and other payments totalling $1200. (see receipts below). She sent me pictures to choose a dog from (see below). These pictures, incidentally have circulated over the web for years!!!
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During the course of these transactions, I'd asked to meet the parents. She CONTINUALLY came up with excuses ranging from "...my brother had a wreck in Kansas..." to "...the dog is sick and can't be around people now..." among a HOST of others.

My wife found out what I was up to and asked to speak with her. We called and they spoke. My wife ALSO asked to see the parents. What breeder won't let you copme and see the litter and/or the parents??? The phone call became very tense and Christina was very defensive and became abusive, disrespectful and profane on the phone. As I discovered later, this is a tactic she uses to try and control the conversations. It didn't work with my wife. Hence, Christina texted me several times and told me she would NOT give me a puppy. I was heartbroken. I tried everything to smooth things out with no results. I then asked for my money back which she FLATLY REFUSED!

I told her I was contacting authorities and that I thought this was a scam. She said she'd refund the money in full and sent a check for $100 (see below) which I DID NOT CASH, but DID call the bank to verify funds since I thought this was very strange to notate "refund for English mastiff puppy" thereby indicating full payment. Sorry, but as they say in the country, "that dog don't hunt".

As she was determined not to return ANY money remitted to her, I told her I was filing a small claim. In Colorado, it's required to go to mediation to get parties to agree to a plan. She then produced 3 checks she claimed to have sent to me. I never received them She HAS my address. IF these had been delivered, I would've tried to cash them most certainly.

This brings up a point:
1. If she'd mailed them to me, why was SHE in posession of them? She would have had to come into my mailbox AFTER they were delivered and take them back. She produced NO ENVELOPES with postmarks to prove she'd mailed ANYTHING and in fact she only had just written these checks. She ALSO brought an accomplice, KAREN ZABCIK, a real estate agent from Evergreen, CO who works in Lakewood, CO and is also under investigation for fraud as Christina repeatedly has used her as a reference.

Davis, of course DID NOT HONOR the mediation agreement and I suspect this was only to buy time for her to disappear, which she promptly did. I was told she'd been evicted. There were NO DOGS at her TOWN HOME where she resided. I returned to court YET ANOTHER TIME to pursue final judgment. (see below)

She drives a Ford Windstar mini van with front end damage. (see Docusearch below) that is registered to 2 deceased people, as Tak Landrock from FOX31 here in Denver and myself discovered. He also found ALIASES (see below), CRIMINAL RECORDS from Oklahoma Dept. Of Corrections (also below)

This womans tactics are as follows:

She lurks on the boards for breeders and ascerns the delivery dates of the litters, then places ads to sell. Buys from these breeders, presents them as her own, produces contracts (see attachment) for prospective buyers to sign, as she did with Sandy, BROKERS the dog, since NONE of her alleged dogs have ever produced any litters, and jacks up the price several hundred dollars. She then either keeps the dog (as in my case) or gives the dog to these unsuspecting victims and rarely if ever produces paperwork. (I was told at the 11th hour she had to mail the paperwork to me) that was the last straw for us.

She is well known among some LEGITIMATE breeder circles. Redgate Mastiffs, Mountain Pride, Eximius, Gothic, CJ's, and MANY, MANY more!!!! I'd be happy to furnish ANY info I have to help this NOT happen to anyone ever again.

She is a criminal, scammer, thief, cheat and CAN NOT CONTINUE down this road, which is why I've MADE IT MY MISSION to stop her in EVERY LEGAL MEANS NECESSARY!

She's made claims that she is pursuing legal action...I'm here to tell you this is the last thing she wants -  to be involved IN ANY WAY with authorities. She's run from everywhere she's ever been. I would WELCOME ANY legal action she chose to initiate. She won't. I have several contacts in the courts and in law enforcement. So I KNOW the laws and abide by them. She can certainly find me. I'm available for law enforcement, & process servers, etc 24/7 and would welcome seeing her in ANY COURT at ANY TIME!

In closing, I will be RELENTLESS in my pursuit of her through legal channels. I WILL see her arrested and brought to justice! I would post her picture here, but don't want to compromise the board, it's administrators or it's members. However ANYONE can GOOGLE "Kings Grace Mastiffs" and the search results will yield all of the SCAM ALERTS and PICTURES of this woman. Additionally, I'm in contact with at least 3 other people who've had similar experiences with Davis. I will see her AKC Kennel Registration VOIDED since I believe she MAY be trying to breed rescue dogs and sell them as K.K. puppies, which is, of course, FRAUD!





                                 





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NOW that I've given you background AND physical evidence of what this woman is capable of, I'd like to take the time to address ALL of the points Davis has tried, albeit unsuccessfully, to make here.

1. I was NEVER notified her dog had miscarried.
2. I NEVER asked for or "decided" on another puppy.
3. As I suspected, her 'friend', Karen (KAREN ZABCIK) is an accomplice in all of this.
4. I'd love to know who the 'reputable breeder' is or was. I was never offered ANY information in this regard.

5. I did gop to her 'townhomw' and met the other copuple with a small child and told them what had occurred. (check original post).
6. The rest is history and Sandy's version of what happened is very similar to the attitude and actions of Davis's M.O. The evidence speaks for itself.
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First of all --the original add that was posted is from a man named John Jay Busse , He was someone who wanted to buy a puppy from a litter I had planned back In early 2013. 
At 54 days my dog started to pass bloody black sludge, Being that I love her more than my own air , I rushed her to the vet ,to find out she had miscarried..( Which I can post shortly so you can see ) Several people were excited about getting a puppy And I being kindhearted felt bad.. Everyone was given the same option, Mr. Busse decided he would like my help finding another puppy, as well as another couple!! 
Myself and my friend Karen drove 584 miles one way to pick up two puppies to be delivered to this man and another couple, both couples chose brindle males.. 
Mr. Busse and his wife, on our trip back from the reputable breeder , Mr . Busse and His wife informed me they have now changed their mind again they wanted a fawn male and wanted to be there to meet the parents (mind you the sale was already done ) time was wasted, the trip was already made.. This person is a reputable breeder, not a puppy mill ,not a rescue.. 
When I return to Denver I had called the couple to come pick up the puppy- Mr. Busse decided to show up at my house raising Cane he then informed me he did not believe my dog had a miscarriage ,that I didn't want him to have my champion lines and was trying to pass off this dog for my champion lines.. None of which was true and at this point I became upset!! 
Mr. Busse was outside my house screaming to other puppy buyers ,stating he wasn't sure if I was a legit breeder.. 
When the love of your life has a miscarriage, it's hard enough to not be scared to death for her safety much less dealing with people who have mental issues.. 
At a later date Mr. Busse decided to come over to my house and feed my dog man-made poison in capsules, my dog collapsed and we had to rush her to the vet. 
Thank God her life was spared .( can post those vet records as well ) I of course called the police and Mr. Busse was warned to stay completely away from me And my friends which he refuses to do. 
So now I am seeking legal action!! 
Sandi purchased a dog from me last Saturday that I purchased from someone else, I had some things come up and realized I cannot afford this dog right now.. 
I then asked the breeder what she would like me to do she told me I could sell the dog.. Sandi paid way less than the dog was worth.. 
Sandi insisted on her and her husband coming Saturday, I was released from the hospital with pneumonia Friday and told Sandi it would be best if she waited till Wednesday or Friday the following week she insisted on picking up the dog!! 
I told her it would take 3 to 5 business days to get the AKC paperwork to me then transferred to her, she was 100% okay with this -Until she went home got on the Internet and seen Mr. Busse's add and decided to believe it ,act like a fool and raise all kinds of hell!! 
I will be sending Sandi her papers and will post the certified return request receipt along with the other paperwork to this ad.. 
And in the meantime will be contacting a lawyer about her slander as well.. 
I have quality English Mastiffs wich whom I take very good care of and love with all my soul!! 
My goal and habits in life are helping people. I have a referral and act of kindness list that goes for days!! 
And I have no problem posting some of those too . People remember this world is filled with evil and people will go out of their way to hurt you for no reason at all ,so I say to you don't believe everything you read or hear and only half of what you see !! 
Hope this clears up any questions if not feel free to email me I have nothing to hide nor would I ever go out of my way to hurt someone.. Thank you 
Christina Davis


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Thank you for your rebuttal. There are a few things that might help all this be avoided in the future. I hope it helps. First, always get a contract ahead of time. Out line exactly what litter the puppy is to come from. If there is no litter for any reason, the contract is void. SEND them to another breeder; don't get in the middle at that point. Be clear about as much as is humanly possible in regards to paperwork, costs, guarantees etc. Second, never take non-refundable deposits . I've seen that lead very hard feelings and I don't believe deposits should be held in 99.9% of cases. I do take deposits after the pups are 4 weeks of age, but if someone backs out between 4-8 weeks, I don't want to keep their money. Third, (and this is a biggie), don't involve third parties in your business dealings(i.e., other breeders). In the MCOA code of ethics, buying a puppy from one breeder and selling it to another puppy buyer is called brokering and is a huge no no. There are so many pitfalls in that scenario that I wouldn't know where to begin. Fourth, never breed if you cannot take care of yourself first. Never breed when you can't afford a disaster. Though I approach every breeding expecting the absolute best outcome, I prepare for the worst just in case (financially). I've had people upset with me because I didn't have enough puppies versus people wanting them, but the reality is that I have no control over that. I will gladly put THEM in touch with other breeders, but it would never get involved in their dealings. That's just a disaster in the making. Be honest in all things. No excuses, no blaming others, no keeping someone's money. In ANY business dealings and, especially in matter of the heart such as a puppy, be absolutely above reproach. It's important to remember that it can take years to build a great reputation and one smelly transaction to ruin it.


This is POSITIVELY great advice. Unfortunately, that wouldn't benefit her in any way since this is PRECISELY what she does. Now that she's been outed here, I suspect we'll never hear from her again once she sees these posts.

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Holy COW! Thank you so much for your detailed response. I sincerely appreciate it as, hopefully, it will allow others to beware.

Now, on to things that might help you avoid this horror in the future.

The WORST place to look for a new puppy is Craigslist, NextDayPets, Puppyfinder or Ebay classified. Honestly, for the most part, only really low rent breeders use those sites. I'd avoid any breeder that uses them like the plague. Unfortunately, most puppy buyers don't realize this until it's too late.

There's a pinned thread that discusses how to find your new puppy. I hope it will help you next time around. Also, it is usually a bad idea to look for a present at a given time. Most good breeders have a waiting list and we plan them for the benefit of the breed and not extra income for holidays. You might have to wait for the puppy you want (maybe an IOU on Mother's Day?) but trust me, it's is so worth the wait when you get a great puppy from a great breeder.

As for seeing the parents or the litter at the time you want to see them. I can tell you that MOST good breeders do not have both mom and dad on the property. I only have girls because my furkids live in the house with me. It would be a NIGHTMARE to keep a stud dog with all my girls coming into heat every few months. I use some of the nicest stud dogs from around the country and do surgical implants (a whole "nuther" topic), so I have "mom", but "daddy" may be in Arizona, Pennsylvania or any points in between. Also, I won't let ANYONE come to see the puppies until they are older. I won't risk someone walking in with parvo or distemper on their shoes. Most breeders feel the same, so that in itself is not a red flag. You would be AMAZED at how small the community of reputable breeders is. For example, there are TONS of breeders if you Google Mastiffs puppies in Texas. I can tell you that if I don't know them, they probably are NOT very reputable. Same goes for Colorado or any state. Reputable breeder network. Even if some of us don't particularly like each other, we still will pass puppy buyers on to them if someone is looking and they have a litter. We WANT good homes to find GOOD puppies.

Finally, this is exactly why I keep this little board running. People NEED to be able to tell their story to warn others. Google IS an awesome tool when you are looking for a puppy in that it can send up red flags like this.

Best wishes on your next puppy buying experience. You live in a haven of great breeders in Colorado. You should be able to find the perfect family member without looking too far.

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Attention:

Christina Davis is now posting puppies on PetFinder.com (see the long link below) as ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTIFFS!!!

I will now post SCAM ALERTS on craigslist to reflect such. FYI...she told Lillian (desertrose025) that Donald K. Downing (the name on the DMV readout) that he was her brother. He told Sydney (breeder in Ordway, CO) that he was her uncle and STILL, she told the deputy, Jason Stockley (Crowley County, CO) that he was her husband. She can not keep her story straight. 

She lists her location as PENROSE, CO, however, that town is WEST of Pueblo by about 25 miles. She is in ORDWAY which in the southeast corner of the state.


Link to her website:

http://rockymountainmastiffs.webs.com/

Link to her puppy advertisement:

http://www.puppyfind.com/view_listing/?list_id=q6il67u74d&back=%2Ffor_sale%2F%3Fbreed_id%3D74%26country%3D%26state%3D%26city%3D%26page%3D3%26order_by%3Dnew%26back%3D%252Fsearch%252F%253Fsubmit%253D1%2526str%253Dmastiff%2526page%253D1&sid=7aaa80827a61353d8b6d3d0afceb1b55

...AND another

http://www.freeadspets.com/dogs-breed-english-mastiff-age-baby-beautiful-english-mastiff-puppies-colorado-springs_13393-25.html

AND another

http://dogs.oodle.com/detail/in-labor-now/3648932157-penrose-co/?cm_mmc=OODLE_PREVIEW-_-www-_-NA-_-NA

I was able to report 2 out of 3 as fraud!!!

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Notify hyrax AttorneyGeneral again. Fraud can land someone in prison!

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Notify hyrax AttorneyGeneral again. Fraud can land someone in prison!


I'll be downtown on Tuesday. I'll stop in their office then.

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Attention:

Christina Davis is now posting puppies on PetFinder.com (see the long link below) as ROCKY MOUNTAIN MASTIFFS!!!

I will now post SCAM ALERTS on craigslist to reflect such. FYI...she told Lillian (desertrose025) that Donald K. Downing (the name on the DMV readout) that he was her brother. He told Sydney (breeder in Ordway, CO) that he was her uncle and STILL, she told the deputy, Jason Stockley (Crowley County, CO) that he was her husband. She can not keep her story straight. 

She lists her location as PENROSE, CO, however, that town is WEST of Pueblo by about 25 miles. She is in ORDWAY which in the southeast corner of the state.


Link to her website:

http://rockymountainmastiffs.webs.com/

Link to her puppy advertisement:

http://www.puppyfind.com/view_listing/?list_id=q6il67u74d&back=%2Ffor_sale%2F%3Fbreed_id%3D74%26country%3D%26state%3D%26city%3D%26page%3D3%26order_by%3Dnew%26back%3D%252Fsearch%252F%253Fsubmit%253D1%2526str%253Dmastiff%2526page%253D1&sid=7aaa80827a61353d8b6d3d0afceb1b55

...AND another

http://www.freeadspets.com/dogs-breed-english-mastiff-age-baby-beautiful-english-mastiff-puppies-colorado-springs_13393-25.html

AND another

http://dogs.oodle.com/detail/in-labor-now/3648932157-penrose-co/?cm_mmc=OODLE_PREVIEW-_-www-_-NA-_-NA

I was able to report 2 out of 3 as fraud!!!
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Lillian Farmer you need some serious serious parvo rid your property I will post all that very soon the dog wasn't even in my care 72 hours in a full-blown parvo in the event and my dogs all tested negative so be evil you get what's coming to you from God or I'm sure in karma, Jay do you not have a life first 1200 then it's 1800 and I believer read 25 what's the real story you got the puppy you picked out you refused it you're a damn liar , oh but wait I was incarcerated during the time that my parents died and I was at two funerals for two years I took care of my mother who is dying of cancer and I work for the Department of Corrections so they would never hire a felon nor could anyone sell houses or rent houses to felons so get your story straight quit putting peoples names on this forum, saying there just seized saying there or be investigated for fraud because they're bigger than anything you were or your daughter will ever know ,with all your threats about your daughters position in the courthouse with the peoples names you're putting on this forum their position in law-enforcement and the harassment charges and slander charges that are about to be about against you sir you need to keep your mouth shut you want to talk crap about me do that because nobody cares especially we know that you And both know the truth. Keep harassing me keep putting peoples names to you have no clue on the Internet charges are being brought against you as well Sandy leik disability for the pills really lady do me a favor go take some more medication get all crazy and decide to do what you've done to someone else because karma for you lady wow I'd love to be a mouse in that corner you guys need to grow up first I have no mastiffs then I have six viscious mastiffs then I have three litters every three months- Sand Dana at Redgate I'm watching your mouth and so is God I've never met you you're a troublemaker you have no life and if you don't stop posting things about me my first charge after Jay and Sandy will be on you you are a lowlife you are the type of person who really has no right to deserve to have tape mouth removed from your mouth. , I have never met you I don't know who you are and from what I understand Greeley and Braden have really really backyard breeders that are bad and filthy is that one of them that are you if you do not stop putting stuff on here about me and talking crap about me when I've never met you I will sue your ass off and trust me I will find a way to take everything you have you are slandering me and I've never met you you should be ashamed of yourself you call yourself a good mastiff person , no good person would bear false witness I am done with this I'm sick of it you guys need to grow up and get a life the referral list I have speaks for itself so keep talking God watching and I'm listening and so are departments!!


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You are so full of it, Christina. Your responses aren't worth a reply. You've been threatening to sue, send police, etc for over a year! You KNOW where I am and so do they. SO SEND THEM ALREADY!!!!

YOU, my dear, are a SOCIOPATH http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html . The definition and characteristics fit you perfectly.

I WILL CONTINUE my pursuit of you and WILL NOT STOP until I see you in the ORANGE JUMPSUIT you so richly deserve! So, as Sandy said, "bring it on!"

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John (Jay) Busse
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